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Jun 28, The new edition is now available: Ed Thorp did the introduction of this second edition. Has anybody got the new one and care to comment?

Got the old one and care to comment on that? The book actually covers a few different games, and is also full of “editorial” material on gambling in general.

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Jun 29, Had heard that the reason the first edition was so sought out was because of a few tips for the Big Six Wheel. I’ve also heard that since that publication, you’d be hard pressed and you’d travel a heck of a lot before finding a vulnerable setup.

The book is apparently good for casino rats who will move around a lot and may have more opportunities than someone standing still. Many are waiting for what they think will be an inevitable drop in price on the second edition.

Reading some of his freely available papers and articles online, Grosjean has a unique and well informed overview of gambling in general, and his writing style is dry and witty which I find is always appropriate for the subject of gambling.


Jul 8, Ggrosjean, I have it. Got home from the lecture tour yesterday and it was waiting for me.

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Although I haven’t read it yet, I have to say it looks great. It’s a big, hardbound book with a nice glossy dustjacket.

grojsean In that respect you won’t be disappointed. Insides look interesting too, albeit a bit dry for most. I’ll probably love it, but my tastes run esoteric.

I read the first one as well and found it fascinating. I’ve even mentioned Grosjean’s name here once or twice.

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Funny you should post that Jason, waiting for the price to drop seemed lame, so I ordered counying up a couple of days ago. Don’t think you’ll be disappointed, considering your interests. Grosjean is widely considered the finest active advantage player in the world. His information is gold. Just be ready for a VERY math-intensive book.

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Jul 9, Boy, I love math, but it’s been a while since I had to think about equations like he talks about The good thing is that you can decide to “trust” him and use the results veyond his math for guidance. But, it is good that he published the countinf, so if people are suspecious, the formulas can be reviewed. Jul 17, Had it for a few days now. Fantastic book, great writing completely irreverent, with many casino’s treated as the sawdust joints they all really are at heart.


Deep stuff, don’t let the math put you off the book. A healthy chunk of the book has nothing to do with deep math, and is comprised of Grosjean’s sometimes politically incorrect, but incredibly deep writing and views on everything to do with gambling he even points out where speed traps are during your drive to popular casinos, the fines for which could erase any expected profit at the tables Probably take me ’till this time next year to get through everything this book has to offer Having purchased a lot of books with vertical subject matter, gambling, history of gambling, playing cards, etc, this book is definitely not overpriced.

It is most definitely expensive, but with the material offered within the purchase price is more than fair. This book could be viewed in the same light as Forte’s “Casino Game Protection”, in that much, if not most of the material it contains is only available between the covers of that one particular book, and nowhere else. Las Vegas, NV Posts. Jason Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God’s unconditional love.

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